Bring Material from the Hebrew forum to the English forum
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If you woud like to fill up the english forum so that people seeking assistance or ideas can find them i think it may be worthwhile to bring over different ideas (such as the Background etc.) from the Hebrew forum which can also be relevant here. (If you bring quotes please translate them)
Example:
@yzahn wrote in effective bookmark for wiki editors:I created a Bookmark which will transfer you with one click from the wiki at "wiki.netfree.link" to the "easy-to-read" wiki "netfree.link/wiki" and back.
URL:
javascript:(function()%7Bif%20(location.host%20%3D%3D%20%22wiki.netfree.link%22)%20%7Blocation.assign(location.href.replace(%22http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.%22%2C%22http%3A%2F%2F%22).replace(%22%2Findex.php%2F%22%2C%22%2Fwiki%2F%22).replace(%22http%3A%2F%2F%22%2C%22https%3A%2F%2F%22))%7D%20else%20%7Bif%20(location.href.match(%2F.*netfree.link%5C%2Fwiki.*%2F))%20location.assign(location.href.replace(%22%2Fwiki%22%2C%20%22%2Findex.php%22).replace(%22%3A%2F%2F%22%2C%20%22%3A%2F%2Fwiki.%22).replace(%22ttps%3A%2F%2F%22%2C%22ttp%3A%2F%2F%22))%3B%20else%20%7Balert(%22%D7%94%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%94%20%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%91%D7%93%20%D7%A8%D7%A7%20%D7%91%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9A%20%D7%94%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%20%D7%A9%D7%9C%20%D7%A0%D7%98%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%99%22)%7D%7D%7D)()Create a Bookmark and add the above code to the URL:
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@DovidStroh
Nice idea.However the real reason there is not much movement here is because the English speaking users are still totally unaware of this forum. There has been no publicity regarding it and the links on the Netfree website etc. go to the Hebrew forum only.
Many current Netfree users saw the Hebrew forum once and have since given up. They have to informed that things have changed.
Almost all the users currently here are experienced with Netfree and also speak Hebrew and thus have little need for this forum.
They are only here b/c they read about it on the Hebrew forum!This forum is potentially very useful which will realize itself with time, publicity and updating Netfree's links to the forum.
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@אורי said in Bring Material from the Hebrew forum to the English forum:
and the links on the Netfree website etc. go to the Hebrew forum only.
This has been updated. The link on the English page goes to English forum.
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@yzahn said in Bring Material from the Hebrew forum to the English forum:
The link on the English page goes to English forum.
Thanks!
This link should also be done: https://netfree.link/start#/start-browsingAlso I seem to remember new users receive an email with info about Netfree with information regarding forum, this should also be amended. So too the panel.
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@אורי said in Bring Material from the Hebrew forum to the English forum:
This forum is potentially very useful which will realize itself with time, publicity and updating Netfree's links to the forum.
Agreed. the idea is to fill it with relevant things such as those on the Hebrew forum so that new users will see and enjoy them just like on the Hebrew forum.
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as of now i dont think there is more then a very few that suscribed to the english forum that dont read hebrew
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@Chocolate
I think that the user in america will use a different range of sites has different needs, circumstances and standards than an Israeli. For instance VPN, sites which dont exist in hebrew and so on. There seems to be no substantial custumization of the filter for the greater american crowd and i firmly beleive that there are things we need to discuss and work on together. -
@OutWorQ-LLC said in Bring Material from the Hebrew forum to the English forum:
@Chocolate
I think that the user in america will use a different range of sites has different needs, circumstances and standards than an Israeli. For instance VPN, sites which dont exist in hebrew and so on. There seems to be no substantial custumization of the filter for the greater american crowd and i firmly beleive that there are things we need to discuss and work on together.If you have any suggestions or ideas just open a new thread.
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@OutWorQ-LLC From my experience and hearing from many others in the US using NetFree i havn't encountered any such issue. as far as i know all the common sites are open and if they aren't then you can just send them in. it's that easy.
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@DovidStroh
There is a difference between Israel and america, in israel, the chareidi community is mostly exposed to internet at first through netfree. Here people know what regular internet is. Here people need speed. Like 2 minutes max for a site to open. At least in my case where Im trying to provide internet for people at a large standard. Also, the pictures open after 30 sec.. And you have to reload the page a few times until the approved image comes up. I feel that the images need to be processed in a way that they open as soon as they are proccessed and not having to reload the page everytime. -
@OutWorQ-LLC said in Bring Material from the Hebrew forum to the English forum:
And you have to reload the page a few times until the approved image comes up. I feel that if the images need to be processed in a way that they open as soon as they are proccessed and not having to reload the page everytime
This is an old issue. Many pictures do refresh automatically. The problem is that the code that refreshes the pictures misses some cases. For the full technical description see my post in the Hebrew forum. I posted a script that helps somewhat. It is still not ideal. Ideally netfree should fix the issue.
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@OutWorQ-LLC said in Bring Material from the Hebrew forum to the English forum:
Like 2 minutes max.
I don't think opening sites will ever be that fast. They are all checked manually (as opposed to with other filters).
Also, the pictures open after three minutes
There is indeed some room for improvement there...
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@OutWorQ-LLC
I really beleive that its a question of money and i am willing to pay more and im sure that many more are to increase speed. If netfree would charge 5 shekels more for their filter a month, they would have another 57,000 dollars a month to work with and increase the speed of everything and take care of all of the requests and needs of their users. Now, you have to create a party on the forum inorder to get somewhere and even then only after a weeks if you even get approved. -
I really believe that its a question of money
It's hard to agree or disagree because the administrators don't really reveal their reasoning...
Your suggestion has come up numerous times in the past in the Hebrew forum. I don't know if there has ever been a full response as to why not, but without doubt it has been thoroughly discussed.57,000 dollars
How do you get to that number? That would require Netfree to have approx 40,000 subscribers...
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@yzahn thats the number
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@OutWorQ-LLC said in Bring Material from the Hebrew forum to the English forum:
@DovidStroh
There is a difference between Israel and america, in israel, the chareidi community is mostly exposed to internet at first through netfree. Here people know what regular internet is. Here people need speed. Like 2 minutes max for a site to open.Just to clarify: this is an additional concern that you have (besides for the american sites issue [which i believe isn't an issue]). correct?
To address this issue allow me to expound slightly on the information available about NetFree's website review system and NetFree's support system as a whole.
When a request (Website review or any other) is submitted it is placed on a waiting list in the appropriate department (Website review, Tech support, Development, Review, Report etc.) where it is handled in the order it was received. If the user requires priority then the user can increase the priority level (aka points).
From my experience, during most hours of the day Website/video review requests with higher priority are handled in 2-3 minutes.
To make them all shorter isn't possible as @yzahn wrote::They are all checked manually (as opposed to with other filters).
Those requests that require Technical support (טיפול מקצועי) do take longer because the issues can be complex.
@OutWorQ-LLC Has you personal experience shown you different results?
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@DovidStroh I had two questions and i didnt know where to go, so i sent two questions to technical support, they were only answered 6 hours later, one with with 2points and one with 3 points. now if im running a business, thats alittle impractical,wouldnt you say?
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- Was it sent after hours (8am till 12am) [1am till 5pm EST]
- Was it a website or tech support?
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@DovidStroh 1)Yes it was, 2) it was both.
Most of my kiosk users are using the computers afterhours. and need both websites open and tech support after hours. -
This is really frustrating for instance, im trying to search cubicles right now to send my partner pictures and all of the pictures are blocked. Theres no reason that they should be blocked, now im a tzaddik and ill deal with my frustration but the regular person will be turned off by this.
